🇰🇷 Korean Origins #85
Idiomatic expressions
도긴개긴
much of a muchness — barely any difference between the two
From the game of yut: the distance to capture a piece with a "do" (dogin) and with a "gae" (gaegin) is hardly any different.
✍️ ONGO · 2026-06-06 · 5 min read
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Origin Story

Era
A yut board laid out in the yard on Lunar New Year

Dogin-gaegin comes from yut, Korea's own traditional board game. On the yut board, the distance over which your piece can catch up to and capture an opponent's piece is called, in pure Korean, a gin. When you toss the yut sticks, a "do" moves one space and a "gae" moves two. So dogin means the distance at which you can capture an opponent's piece with a do, and gaegin the distance you can capture it with a gae. But one space versus two — on the board, that gap is truly trivial. Since it makes little difference whether you capture with a do or a gae, dogin-gaegin came to mean "so alike that the two aren't worth comparing."

It is often written "dojjin-gaejjin" or "dojin-gaejin" as well, where "jin" is a dialectal form of "gin." The standard form is dogin-gaegin, but fittingly for a word born from a game, it has come down to us with many spoken variations.

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Meaning Evolution

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Original meaning
In yut, the capture distance of a do and of a gae — that is, dogin and gaegin.
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Derived meaning
The gap between the two distances being so small that neither comes out ahead.
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Modern usage
A phrase for a situation so evenly matched that weighing it makes no real difference.
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How It Is Used

This shop or that one, the prices are much of a muchness ("dogin-gaegin").

You both showed up late, so who's blaming who? You're six of one, half a dozen of the other ("dogin-gaegin").

Whichever option you pick, the outcome looks like it'll be about the same ("dogin-gaegin").

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Related Words

윷놀이
Yut, Korea's own folk board game, from which dogin-gaegin originated.
오십보백보
A classical idiom ("fifty paces, a hundred paces") meaning slight difference, same essence.
대동소이
A Sino-Korean synonym meaning "largely the same, differing only slightly."
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Memory Hook

On a yut board, capturing from one space (do) or two (gae) comes to the same thing — picture that trivial gap.

"One space or two, on the yut board it all comes out about the same."

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